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	<title>And Slaters Go Plop &#187; Religion</title>
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		<title>Can you derive an ought from an is?</title>
		<link>http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2010/06/15/can-you-derive-an-ought-from-an-is/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider this hypothesis: ‘Oughts’ must always be accompanied by a goal of some kind. ‘Ethical oughts’ are a subset in which the goal is in some way related to degrees of pleasure or suffering of others. If we expand on this we can see examples of fairly straight-forward ‘oughts’ like, “you ought to pour the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider this hypothesis:</p>
<p><strong>‘Oughts’ must always be accompanied by a goal of some kind. ‘Ethical  oughts’ are a subset in which the goal is in some way related to degrees  of pleasure or suffering of others.</strong></p>
<p>If we expand on this we can see examples of fairly straight-forward  ‘oughts’ like, “you ought to pour the hot water into the tea cup” where  the unspoken goal is “if you want to make a cup of tea then…”. This  ‘ought’ combined with these ‘ises’ (i.e. there are ‘ises’ in that there  is a cup, that there is water, that there is a creature with a goal of  making a cup of tea, etc) show that it is ‘wrong’ to pour the water on  the bench and ‘right’ to pour it in the cup. If the goal was to clean  the dishes then the ‘ought’ would change.</p>
<p>Ethical ‘oughts’ like, “you ought not steal” have unspoken goals like  “if you want to avoid making others unhappy then…”. This ‘ought’ is  also derived from a bunch of ‘ises’ (there are other people who are  unhappy when stolen from, you are a creature with the ability to steal  or not steal, you are a creature who doesn’t want others to be unhappy,  etc) and shows that, within this framework, there is a ‘right’ way to  act and a ‘wrong’ way to act.</p>
<p>When you read the ethical example you are no doubt asking “well, why  ‘ought’ you want others to be happy?” You could ask the same of the tea  cup example; why ‘ought’ you make a cup of tea? We can step out to  meta-oughts and we’ll find that the same rules apply: that even a  meta-ought requires a goal of some kind and that an ethical meta-ought  will involve some kind of ability to make others suffer.</p>
<p>We ought to make a cup of coffee because we desire it (thirst,  addiction, etc). If we are to fulfil this desire then we ‘ought’ to make  a cup of coffee. It is ‘right’ in this context to boil the jug.</p>
<p>We ought to want to make others happy (or, at least, not cause others  to suffer) if we find ourselves in a society which returns favours or  which punishes us when we cause harm. It is ‘right’ to not cause others  to suffer in this context.</p>
<p>What about meta-meta-oughts? The same rules apply. Each meta-ought  gradually becomes more and more empirically simple, not more and more  supernaturally ethereal. They fade out into ‘ises’. We eventually end up  with ‘oughts’ based on how our bodies/brains work. We ought to be  thirsty because our bodies trigger a thirst response when they require  water to keep working. Conversely, we ought to fight this addiction (if  it is one) because our brains — through gradual understanding about how  the world works — informs us that even though our bodies desire and  reward us for caffeine we are suffering in other ways. We ought to avoid  suffering because our bodies use suffering in order to stop us harming  ourselves. Our bodies ought to provide these responses if we are to  survive and spread our genes. Our genes are configured in this way  because if they weren’t we wouldn’t be here. At the very foundation it’s  simply a matter of patterns that survive.</p>
<p>At some stage our ethical oughts fade into non-ethical oughts when  the ‘ought’ no longer pertains to the well being of others. Even if you  believe in the existence of a God who is either a punisher and rewarder  (you ought to simply because God says you ought to) or a trustworthy  advisor (we ought to because God knows more about how the universe works  and his advice can be trusted to bring us happiness) we eventually end  up with ethical oughts based on our own personal well being which, as I  have shown, fade into non-ethical oughts because they don’t involve the  well being of others. If you believe in a God of some kind ask yourself  “why oughtn’t I murder?” and follow those meta-oughts as far as you can.  I guarantee you’ll end up dealing with a non-ethical ought based on  your own well being which, in turn, will end up disappointingly as a  mere surviving genetic pattern. (I personally don’t find it  disappointing; I think it’s one of the most wonderful things ever. I used to though.)</p>
<p>It shouldn’t really surprise us that complexity arises from  simplicity. We have first-hand experience of gradually arising from a  single sperm and an egg. We know that the amazing diversity of life  evolved from simple chemical reactions billions of years ago. We suspect  that the universe itself came about from deep simplicity. When we  examine oughts and meta-oughts it certainly feels as though the ought of  “you ought not steal” should have come from on high but as with the  case of the coffee-making we can see that even this arises from  something as simple as looking after our own interests.</p>
<p>At their very foundation, ‘oughts’ (even ethical ‘oughts’) are  ‘ises’. It’s the layers of meta-oughts that trick us into thinking  otherwise. It’s also the fact that some people are happy to speak the  implicit “if you want to make a cup of tea then…” in common oughts but  have difficulty speaking the implicit “if you want to avoid causing  suffering then…” in what we term ‘ethical oughts’.</p>
<p><em>(This was originally posted as a comment over at <a href="http://www.fruitfulfaith.net/2010/06/ought-thought/">FruitfulFaith</a> and it was only after seeing how monstrously huge it was that I realised it was suitable as a post in itself. I&#8217;ve had a lot of different thoughts on morality and the issues that surround it and this is a good distillation of my latest thinking. And like all my previous thoughts this will likely change too &#8212; but right now I can&#8217;t see any gaping holes and it seems a fairly robust hypothesis capable of explaining a lot.)</em></p>
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		<title>Pope Song by Tim Minchin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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But that&#8217;s kind of the entire point of the song if you listen to the lyrics.</p>
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		<title>Google Knows Best</title>
		<link>http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2010/04/19/google-knows-best/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<title>The Skeptical Homeopath</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine, if you will, a person who believes in the power of homeopathy to heal. He&#8217;s had a number of experiences that lead him to believe that homeopathy is more than just a placebo. He doesn&#8217;t quite know how to explain why it works, he just knows that it does work. This person is no [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine, if you will, a person who believes in the power of <a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4649">homeopathy</a> to heal. He&#8217;s had a number of experiences that lead him to believe that homeopathy is more than just a placebo. He doesn&#8217;t quite know how to explain why it works, he just knows that it does work. This person is no fool. He doesn&#8217;t believe every homeopathic claim without regard. He will apply the core tenets of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism">skepticism</a> to examine claims and will discard those where there is a perfectly natural explanation. But where there is no explanation and homeopathy has been used he accepts that this is a result of the the power of homeopathy.</p>
<p>Now, imagine a Christian who believes in miracles. She&#8217;s had a number of experiences and heard the testimonies of genuine and reputable people. She doesn&#8217;t know how it works only that, occasionally, it really does work. She&#8217;s no fool either. She understands skeptical thinking. She won&#8217;t accept any and all miracle claims and is aware that there have been many, many bogus claims in the past. But when she sees examples of miracles where there is no natural explanation and the miracle is done in the name of Christianity she accepts that this is a genuine miracle.</p>
<p>In both of these examples, the people are acting perfectly skeptically within their predefined set of beliefs. They are applying the techniques properly and should be commended. But in both of these examples there are two fundamental flaws which, when combined, render the process of skepticism almost useless.</p>
<p>First, if a magician performs a trick and you can&#8217;t think of how it could possibly have been done you are usually happy to shrug and say you simply don&#8217;t know how he did it. But we are pattern-seeking creatures and it often doesn&#8217;t sit well with us to say we don&#8217;t know. Especially when <a href="http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2010/04/15/the-power-of-sincerity/">the claim seems genuine</a>. We <em>have</em> to find an explanation. In both of these examples our Christian and our homeopath have not been content to simply say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; in the absence of a natural explanation and have defaulted to the explanation provided by their predefined beliefs. Which is perfectly understandable given that they have good reason for their beliefs.</p>
<p>Or do they?</p>
<p>This leads me to the second flaw. We have to ask how the homeopath came to the conclusion that homoepathy is actually effective (beyond placebo) in the first place. Did they use the skeptical method? Or could they just not think of a natural explanation and so jumped to the conclusion that homeopathy must therefore be genuine? What about the Christian and her miracles? Was she displaying good critical thinking when she decided that there is a supernatural God capable of supernatural miracles? Why not be content with an &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; instead of attempting to fill the unexplained with what the unexplainable?</p>
<p>Skeptical thinking breaks down if your premise was not built using the tools of skepticism in the first place.</p>
<p>As an example of this, in a recent blog entry over at <a href="http://www.beretta-online.com/wordpress/index.php/miracles-happen/">Beretta</a>, the author posts three examples of miracles he believes to be genuine at the same time as taking some pains to point out that&#8217;s he&#8217;s skeptically-minded. One of them was of a man with a lump of some kind being prayed for who is then shown to have no lump. A commenter pointed out that the man is wearing a different shirt later on (which gives us no idea of how long it&#8217;s been since being prayed for or what has happened between) whereupon the author wisely agreed and subsequently withdrew his endorsement. But what if the man happened to be wearing the same shirt days, weeks or months later when the two videos were stitched together? How would he ever have discerned whether this was a fake or not?</p>
<p>Skepticism recommends that you should settle for &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; over a supernatural and unexplainable explanation. Sure, you sometimes have to temporarily choose an explanatory model in the absence of good evidence but if you&#8217;ve chosen one that relies on no known natural laws you really owe it to yourself to spend every minute of every waking hour doubting and re-examining your beliefs because:</p>
<p><em>“Man, once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes the helm of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck.”</em> – Thomas Jefferson 1822</p>
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		<title>Holy Ghost Hokey Pokey</title>
		<link>http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2010/04/09/holy-ghost-hokey-pokey/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are a Christian you may boggle at the inanity of this. If, like me, you are not a Christian this will probably make as much sense as the musical manipulation we normally see in happy-clappy churches.]]></description>
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<p>If you are a Christian you may boggle at the inanity of this. If, like me, you are not a Christian this will probably make as much sense as the musical manipulation we normally see in happy-clappy churches.</p>
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		<title>Sam Harris on Science and Morality</title>
		<link>http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2010/03/23/sam-harris-on-science-and-morality/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<title>Atheist Bus Campaign. Meh.</title>
		<link>http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2009/12/11/atheist-bus-campaign-meh/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who believes in critical thinking, scepticism and rational enquiry it is with a little trepidation that I want to address the recent announcement of the Atheist Bus Campaign here in New Zealand. I&#8217;ve given more thought than most would on the issue of the existence of God and, after many years of deep [...]]]></description>
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<p>As someone who believes in critical thinking, scepticism and rational enquiry it is with a little trepidation that I want to address the recent announcement of the <a href="http://www.nogod.org.nz/">Atheist Bus Campaign</a> here in New Zealand.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve given more thought than most would on the issue of the existence of God and, after many years of deep belief, have come to the difficult conclusion that it is just not true. For many this question is simply not an issue; they&#8217;re either completely ambivalent and would see someone as a bit wonky for believing or they know &#8216;deep down&#8217; that God exists.</p>
<p>The campaign represents my beliefs nicely. I even respect the use of the word &#8216;probably&#8217; in the opening line &#8220;There&#8217;s probably no God&#8221;. It&#8217;s nice and accurate and less like the dogma we mistrust so much in religion.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that I&#8217;d be quite enthusiastic about the campaign but I&#8217;m just not.</p>
<p>I think that replicating the campaign here in New Zealand smacks of an identity crisis fuelled by a little too much US Internet consumption. We just don&#8217;t have the same problems they do. A person <em>can</em> become the <a href="http://damian.peterson.net.nz/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/22luo850684.jpg" target="_blank">leader of our nation</a> and not believe in an imaginary God. People don&#8217;t seem to think I&#8217;m a morally inferior person when they find out that I&#8217;m an atheist.</p>
<p>Sure, we have our problems. The main one I can think of regarding religion is that religions are tax exempt by default; all they have to do is &#8220;further their religion&#8221;. And there is the occasional <a href="http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2007/11/12/woman-dies-in-curse-lifting-ritual/">exorcism/murder</a> but that&#8217;s pretty much down to pig-stupidity and I doubt any amount of buses with signs would stop that. Most of our problems are down to a lack of critical thinking. Whether it be alternative medicine that just doesn&#8217;t work or our embarrassing statistics on global warming denial or our deep fear of anything not &#8216;natural&#8217; (whatever that means). Here in New Zealand we have a deep distrust of science and we lack the ability to carefully weigh facts. It&#8217;s almost like we&#8217;ll back whoever comes out with the most anti-scientific sentiment as if we are backing the number-8-wire-underdog who will come through in the end with their wacky but revolutionary ideas.</p>
<p>I feel that the closest thing to a &#8216;magic bullet&#8217; here in New Zealand is to teach children how to think critically, how to examine evidence, how not to be fooled in life, at a primary school level. Methods that we can all agree on that they can apply later in life when someone tells them about the latest healing remedy or their life-transforming revelation or the magnets that help them sleep, etc, etc.</p>
<p>I feel that all an Atheist Bus Campaign will do is make those who are ambivalent think that atheists are wannabe martyrs and give a platform for media-desperate fundamentalists who will come off looking semi-respectable in contrast.</p>
<p>To those running the campaign I say good luck and that I agree with what you are saying. I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to achieve what you think it&#8217;s going to achieve.</p>
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		<title>Dogma</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one believes that they are dogmatic. We&#8217;re all far too reasonable for that carry on. But we can all point to a number of other people who we would term as dogmatic and, with a little imagination, we should be able to understand that they probably don&#8217;t think they are dogmatic. This leaves us [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one believes that they are dogmatic. We&#8217;re all far too reasonable for that carry on. But we can all point to a number of other people who we would term as dogmatic and, with a little imagination, we should be able to understand that they probably don&#8217;t think they are dogmatic. This leaves us with a dilemma; how do we know that <em>we</em> are not being dogmatic ourselves? If we can see others acting dogmatically who are unaware of it then, chances are, we could be too.</p>
<p>By &#8216;dogmatic&#8217; I am describing an absolutist kind of belief that, if I could summarise in my own words, boils down to the fact that you would really rather hold to what you believe than accept an alternative even if the alternative is true. Dogma is the belief you refuse to interrogate.</p>
<p>Dogmatism can get in the way of new truths. The reason for this is that if you are unwilling to honestly put a belief to the test then you will never find out if that belief happens to be false. A valid argument can be made that perhaps there are some beliefs that we&#8217;d be better off clinging to rather than risking finding out a truth that would cause you great unhappiness. Would you like to find out that your partner cheated on you all those years ago? What if we discover that we are really just a brain in a jar somewhere living a simulation? What if God really is imaginary? What if God really is real? Whether we dare to search for the truth of a particular matter is a personal decision. But if we refuse to honestly put our beliefs to the test then we ought to show a little more humility when telling others what we <em>&#8216;know</em>&#8216; to be true.</p>
<p>So, assuming we <em>do</em> want truth, how do we avoid dogmatism? The best way I can think of is to actually value truth over any existing belief. This can be excruciating, especially when a belief is foundational to any meaning you get out of life. I found it very difficult many years ago to say to myself in all honesty that I would hold truth higher than my belief in the existence of God. If you&#8217;ve never believed in God you&#8217;ll probably struggle to understand the significance of this but, to a believer, God <em>is</em> truth and so it can seem a kind of fundamental blasphemy to say that you would even challenge the idea. If you do believe in God, fear not, many respectable people have done what I did and kept their belief afterwards and I greatly respect them for it.</p>
<p>Other than valuing truth over existing beliefs I&#8217;ve come across another technique that can help to break the emotional attachment we often develop with our dearly-held beliefs. That is to regularly switch perspectives or, &#8220;state the opposite&#8221;. An example of this is to first say what you believe i.e. &#8220;Labour has the best health policies&#8221; and then say the opposite i.e. &#8220;National has the best health policies&#8221; or, &#8220;Act has the best health policies&#8221; and try to mean it. You can do this with just about any belief in which you are tempted to take sides and it really can help to make you more objective because it can lessen the effects of the &#8216;in-group/out-group&#8217; factor.</p>
<p>Does anyone have any other good tips or tricks for finding truth that can be used by anyone regardless of their starting assumptions?</p>
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		<title>How Polarisation Can Get In The Way Of Truth</title>
		<link>http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2009/04/15/how-polarisation-can-get-in-the-way-of-truth/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a perfect world, when faced with a contentious issue, we would assimilate the facts, weigh them against each other and come to a reasonable consensus (pending further information, of course). We don&#8217;t live in a perfect world however and I&#8217;ve observed in myself and in others that we often tend to treat our existing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a perfect world, when faced with a contentious issue, we would assimilate the facts, weigh them against each other and come to a reasonable consensus (pending further information, of course). We don&#8217;t live in a perfect world however and I&#8217;ve observed in myself and in others that we often tend to treat our existing beliefs about the way the world works as if it were our favourite football team; we&#8217;ll stand behind them through good times and bad, through confirmatory and contradictory evidence.</p>
<p>This is a fairly natural thing to do and if we are aware of our own confirmation bias we can do a lot to gradually eliminate those ideas we previously held to be true but which were, in fact, false.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve noticed that when two people attempt to discuss a contentious issue from two very different starting assumptions, instead of fostering a willingness to seek the truth regardless of the impact to our existing beliefs, we are driven further toward defending them against this new &#8216;enemy&#8217;.</p>
<p>I think that if our goal is truth then we ought to spend most of our time challenging our existing beliefs in dialogue with people with whom we have much in common. That way we&#8217;ll be less inclined to go into defensive mode and more likely to gracefully discard what was previously an incorrect belief.</p>
<p>This would mean that in many cases there would have to be a certain level of exclusivity to discussions but I think it would go a long way toward self-improvement even though it may take a very long time to unravel long-held presuppositions.</p>
<p>I want to be able to thrash out what I see as difficulties to do with consciousness or first causes without having to deal with the distraction of religious dogma or new age pseudo-science and, more importantly, I&#8217;d imagine that there are many conversations that other people would like to have without me jumping in and blurting out what I <em>know</em> must be true.</p>
<p>So, for those of you who have found me an irritation in the past, I hope to be less in your face with what I perceive to be the absolute truth. If you think I&#8217;ve got something wrong and you hold very similar starting assumptions to me then please feel free to rigorously discuss your ideas with me. If you hold very different starting assumptions please try to allow for the fact that you may be wrong and I will try my best to do likewise. We may, after all, both be wrong.</p>
<p>In a perfect world we should be happier to learn that we have been wrong than that we have &#8216;won&#8217; an argument.</p>
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		<title>Jared Diamond on the Evolution of Religion</title>
		<link>http://damian.peterson.net.nz/2009/04/08/jared-diamond-on-the-evolution-of-religion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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<p>The lecture lasts around 40 minutes and the rest is questions and answers.</p>
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